if i remember correctly, its was after chicham otw the way to chandrtall lake. a local told us the lake is open, we went there and the its all ice. very dangerous drive there, slipery. got a tire puntured while coming out from the lake. that caused me to be still in the moutains in night fall, lucky for me a local was there who offered to drive my car back. the stones was huge and i was going at only 25kn/h due to the visibilty and me not having any spare tire left.